Interviewer: So, a real insight into why youand Prince Harry set up the Royal foundation. Did you ever imagine it will grow like this? William: I think when we first started it,it started as a very small idea with Harry and I scratching our heads going, “How...how can we do something that's going to help us in the future? How are we going to build something that'sgoing to provide almost a vehicle to allow us to impact in charitable areas?” Because it was quite difficult at the time. Harry and I used to go to a lot of engagementsand see these incredible charities doing really great work, but felt that we... we could givemore, and how could we do that? And so, the foundation idea sort of bubbledup as a sort of vehicle to be able to do more when we... when we walked away from theseengagements. Interviewer: So, you both take credit forcoming up with the idea? William: Totally. Interviewer: Are there any particular momentsthat stand out for you or people you've met along the way? William: I think, for me, I think, probably,you know, after while it was quite a big moment for me, when I realized the convening powerof what we could do. I think getting the 7 leading global conservationNGOs and charities together in 1 room, and getting them to unite behind 1 particularfocus, I thought that was... that was when I realized, actually, maybe this... this hasgot some legs, this has got some real ability to do something. Because I found uniting people together, bringingthem together made so much... broke down barriers. It made things move much quicker, much smoother. And actually, we got more impact from that. And then leading on to that, that the mentalhealth campaign Heads Together, I think, you know, basically replicated the same thing,again, on a sort of national scale. And I think it surprised all of us how muchit took off. And, again, the fact that we had these leadingexperts who've been working in the mental health field for way longer than we had, butwe felt that we could... we could provide... well, they provided the foundation and thesolidity of the campaign, and we could then help provide some of the... some of the otherconduits. Interviewer: Duchess, we can definitely giveyou credit for coming up with the idea to work together on the campaign around mentalhealth. How did that come about? And why was that important for you? Catherine: That's pretty generous of you tosay. It was an idea. But actually, it was actually going back tothe beginning, when we were looking at the different ways in which we could all workwith the foundation. And I suppose I'd learned through sort ofmeeting some of my managers, that there was sort of all these underlying causes acrossso many different sectors. Mental health just kept on flagging up everytime, whether it's with addiction or school support and with vulnerable young children. So, it's something that I felt very passionateabout. It's obviously such a huge topic. It wasn't as big as I actually thought itwas, but it was something that I think all 3 of us at the time felt that we really couldmake a far bigger impact together, rather than just 1 of us acting alone on it. Interviewer: And how much of a differencedid it make the 3 of you behind that call to action? Catherine: Right. I felt... I've always felt really strongly and sortof putting... putting ideas together. And sort of, we all had very different areasthat were working... working with sort of Harry with... with knife crime, William witha lot of homelessness, with me with sort of, yeah, addiction and things. And I just think being able to sort of cometo... come together to find some sort of common... common ground, and... and be able to sortof, yeah, draw ideas together and find a way forward, I think that's really, really exciting. Interviewer: Meghan, you are new to the foundation,but you have lots of experience working with charities, especially grassroots organizations. It would be interesting to find out, firstof all, your impressions of the Royal foundation so far, and what you're hoping to do. Don’t be too critical. Meghan: Yeah, no, of course. Well, obviously, it's incredibly exciting. And yes, I think, for me, it's been a verylong time working on cause-driven work, specifically with women and girls’ rights. But, you know, to see the model of the foundationis really interesting. Because while I've worked with larger NGOs,I've also worked with really small grassroots organizations where you can see a higher levelof impact, in my opinion, because there's a lot less red tape. What you're seeing here, and what I noticedwith Heads Together from a global perspective (because I wasn't here, obviously, when itwas happening) was the power of convening all of these smaller organizations who havethe same issue, but need that extra push and support, under this umbrella, you're ableto achieve that. And the impact they all made with Heads Togetherwas tremendous. So, I'm very excited to be able to work oninitiatives similarly, and that can have that same sort of impact globally. Interviewer: And it's great that you are nowable to work together (that's exciting) on things that you are passionate about. How do you think, Prince Harry, you can makethe most impact through your work with the foundation going forward? Harry: I think as Williams touched on, aswe've mentioned in the past, it's all about changing mindsets. I think the biggest successes that... thatthe Royal foundation has had to date is all based around changing mindsets, whether it'sthe perception of wounded, injured, and sick servicemen and women across the globe. Interviewer: The Invictus Games. Harry: Invictus Games... well, part of theInvictus Games and endeavor fund as well. But also Heads Together. You know, Heads Together was a... is an amazingconvening power, but also the perception of mental health now across this country andalso in other countries has changed without a doubt. I think the timing was... the timing was...was absolutely perfect on that. But again, it's... it's all about tacklingthe cause and not the symptom. I think in today's society, we have... it'svery easy to get sucked into trying to sort out the symptom. We... we have the 4 of us and everybody atthe Royal Foundation, and all of our supporters, hopefully, believe that actually, in orderto have long lasting change, to have a long lasting impact, you have to somewhat ignorethe symptom, or go to the symptom, talk, listen to them, and then come wind all the way backto find out the cause. Because otherwise, you're just putting a Band-Aidon the problem. And, you know, in some instances, I thinksome organizations, that's... that's all they can do. But we realize that with this very uniqueopportunity, this unique platform, that we have to be tackling the cause of the problem. And I think youth violence within... withinthe UK at the moment is a classic example where, you know, back end of last year, knifecrime skyrocketed. And I spoke to some of... some of the peopleat Royal Foundation said, “Right, knife crime, let's look into it.” But in reality, knife crime is a symptom ofa cause. So, therefore, go and speak to the young people(which is what we're doing), speak to those communities, and actually listen to what theythink the problems are. And then rewind all the way back and go, “Right,what is... what is the root cause of all of these different issues?” Then you... I mean, effectively, you're saving money aswell, because you'll say, “Right, we're investing all of our time, all of our effortinto this problem. And we're going to... by fixing that, we'regoing to fix...” Interviewer: So, you're not coming in tellingthem what to do. You are helping them to come up... facilitatingthem coming up with the solutions. Harry: Exactly what William said in his speech,you know, we are the Royal Foundation. I'm not saying that other foundations don'tlisten, but we pride ourselves on going into... going into a situation, convening people andlistening, and hoping that all of those partners or all those people agree that the problemsare the same thing. Interviewer: So far, your work has covereda wide range of issues, supporting the armed forces, conservation, young people, mentalhealth. What do you want to focus on next? William: And I think we've looked at waysof collaborating again. I think it'd be wonderful if we could do anotherproject or another campaign, you know, sort of similar impact Heads Together with, youknow, as a unit, as a family. But I think we've got to be careful how andwhen we target those moments. You've got to use them carefully, and you'vegot to plan for them. They take a lot of preparation to do. And I think each of us have got our own ideasand work streams that we'd like to build them. For me personally, I think, following on fromHeads Together, tackling male mental health. There's still a huge stigma and taboo aroundmale mental health. Suicide, for instance, among young men isone of the biggest killers in the country. Some of the statistics that came out fromHeads Together was that we've managed to create 800,000 new conversations amongst men on mentalhealth, which we thought was really good. And the other interesting facts as well wasthat only 2% of people at work go to HR to talk about mental health, 2%. So, that shows that, you know, work is oneof the most stressful places that we go to every day. And the fact is that people aren't feelinglike they can go to work and actually speak to those people who, in theory, know the systemand know what your... the environment you're working in. And that we've got to... we've got to reallydo something about mental health in the workplace as well. So, I think on that side of things, there'squite a lot to do there. I'm still very keen on working with GlasgowLife from the conservation. The Glasgow Life trade has got a big year. We've got the last conference coming up inLondon in October, and I'm hoping we get senior representation from around the world comesto that. Cyberbullying is another area. Recently, we got a bit of traction with socialmedia companies and the internet companies came together onto the task force, which TheRoyal Foundation helped put together to try and bring everyone together to fix what isa growing problem, which is obviously cyberbullying and online activity, basically keeping childrensafe online. So, I think those are sort of key areas I'mreally working on. One of the big things that we've discussedas well, which we'd really love to obviously, it's sort of pie in the sky theory at themoment, it's kind of ambitious (but we like to be ambitious, very ambitious) is the ideaof a big tackling or linking into all the big foundations in the world. So, as I say, in my speech, there's a lotof foundations out there with an incredible amount of money and a credible amount of abilityto move things forwards. But I think what we can bring as a Royal Foundationis that convening efforts. And I think he put some of the big foundationsin the world together, along with our convening power of the Royal foundation. And if we focus on certain big issues, hopefullyglobal, I think we can make a really big difference. So, I'm really excited about the future inthat sense. Interviewer: And, Duchess, what are you mostexcited about when it comes to the future of your work with the foundation? Catherine: There’s lots that I think. I'm hugely excited about with the foundationfrom the foundation’s perspective. Mentioning before about working together,you know, look at... William is looking at some long-term perspectives. You know, imagine if we were able to do sortof ads together campaign with another generation of members of the royal family, I think that'sso exciting to think that, with so many more of us working on the same cause, or similarcauses, we could make a real impact. And I will say, for me, personally, it's I'mreally interested in keeping going with the sort of the mental health element and reallyfocusing on some of the ideas, early intervention, looking at how early can we go back readyto support the next generation to help break the cycle. And looking at how to support parents andfamilies, bring up the next generation of mentally sort of happy and well children,but also helping them have the tools as well to cope with the challenges of modern-dayfamily and parenthood. Interviewer: And how does your own personalexperience feed into that? Because I know, those issues that you mentioned,early intervention, coping with parenthood, supporting the next generation of mothersare issues that are very close to your heart. Catherine: Absolutely. And I’ve learned a huge amount from facilitypatches that I've worked with, but also some of the amazing experts that I met along theway. And, you know, it... you can't help but reflecton your... your own life, and it's definitely had an impact on how I sort of how I lookat how I mother, how we work as a family, and, you know, how we hope to bring up ourchildren. And I've learned so much. And I just, you know, if... if some of thisknowledge and some of the facts and figures that I've learned along the way could be passedon to the general public, I think in an awareness campaign or something like that, I think it’dbeen hugely beneficial to all mothers and parents out there. Interviewer: Meghan, you touched on it before. You have... it's well known you've championedthe empowerment of women and young girls and promoting their self-worth. How do you hope to continue that work withThe Royal Foundation? Meghan: Yes, I mean, I think that knowingthat I've just been here for 3 months, right? And in that time... but with that said, forme, it's very important to once you hit the ground running, even if you're doing it quietlybehind the scenes, which is what I focus my energy on this far, is meeting with the rightpeople, meeting with the right organizations behind the scenes quietly, learning as muchas I can, so that I can maximize the opportunity we have here to really make an impact. I think what's interesting is I hear a lotof people saying when speaking about girls’ empowerment, finding and knowing their worth,or women's empowerment as well, you'll often hear people say, “Well, you're helping womenfind their voices.” And I fundamentally disagree with that, becausewomen don't need to find a voice, they have a voice, they need to feel empowered to useit. And people need to be encouraged to listen. And I think right now in the climate thatwe're seeing with so many campaigns, I mean, Me Too, and Time's Up, there is no bettertime than to really continue to shine a light on women feeling empowered, and people reallyhelping to support them, men included in that. I mean, it makes such a tremendous difference. So, yeah, just, I guess we wait a couple months,and then we can hit the ground running. But up until then I'm pretty excited. Interviewer: But like you said, I mean, you'vebeen here for... Meghan: Yeah, wedding first. Interviewer: Get that. Having said that, you have been quietly, likeyou say, behind the scenes, let's just say laying the foundations for your future work. Can you tell us a bit more about that? Meghan: Sadly, I can't. But I will say, you know if... if we knowhow... and I certainly know how passionate I am, and Harry and I see the world so similarlyin our approach of being very hands on with things. What I can say is that I have been fortunateenough to meet with some incredible women and organizations in general in the UK thatare doing work here. But then also, knowing that some of the workthat I've done in the past has been in Commonwealth countries like Rwanda, India. So, this reach, I think, can have... can havesome really nice legs to it once we can start. But... Interviewer: After wedding… Meghan: Yes, exactly to be continued. Interviewer: Okay. I look forward to picking up on that conversationlater. Meghan: yeah, me too. Thank you. Interviewer: And Prince Harry, what are thebiggest challenges as you see them going forward? What do you want to focus on? Harry: I think... where do we start with that? I think, as we've discussed, Heads Together,there's so much more to do. We've... we've probably... we've... we'vemade it... we've made a difference. We know that. Everybody that's part of the campaign knowsthat. Hopefully all the partners feel that. Some of them are nodding, some are not. But I think we understand, we realize thatthere's so much more to do. It’s very much on unfinished work that. So, I'm looking forward to supporting that. Again, Coach Core is a fantastic thing thatwe've got going on here. You know, something like 75 or 80% of youngpeople in this country, I mean, young people like this... this high, 6, 7 years old, havea bad experience with their first... with their first coach, with their first sort ofsporting endeavors such. And that has a massive impact for them, youknow, moving forward. So, Coach Core, and the expansion of CoachCore was very important. A couple of things I'm really passionate aboutworking on is sustainable tourism. So, I'm looking into that at the moment. There's a huge number of players and differentissues that need to be discussed. But I think in a typical raw foundation way,we might have the ability to be able to convene, and bring people together. Because at the end of the day, these ecosystemsthat are out there need to be protected, they need to be seen as an asset. And if they are treated as an asset, thenthey... then the local communities will benefit from them and... and tourism companies willbe incentivized to look often for the longer term. And that also, as I’ve touched on, briefly,youth violence in this country, again, you know, this, it’s a growing problem. No matter where you are in the UK, obviously,a lot of stuff in the news with knife crime... knife crime in London, but just to bang onagain, that whole symptom and cause bit. I think, you know, we really have an opportunityhere to... to tackle the root causes of some of these... some of these massive issues. So, as I said, we're... we're pretty tiedup with planning a wedding at the moment, but we're really looking forward to workingas a pair as a 4 going forward and hoping to make as much of a difference where we can. So, there's a hell of a lot of work to do. Interviewer: Well, we're looking forward toboth the wedding and the work you are planning to do. Just reflecting on last year, it sounds likeyou're planning Heads Together part 2, if you like. But reflecting on the success of last year,I mean, I know we keep saying it, but it really did change the national conversation aroundmental health. You have the world's first mental health marathon,a hugely impactful social media campaign. Did you expect it to be that successful? William: No. Harry: It was organized on the back of a fagpacket. Interviewer: Good to know. William: It was. I think, as you alluded to earlier, Catherine... Catherine was one who put this sort of jointhe dots together for all of us. She was the one who came up with the ideaand the concept as well, because her and I had never, never thought about doing a campaignas such before. And when you tackle mental health, it wasvery difficult to know where to start. It's such a big issue and it's so entrenchedin society in a negative way, sadly, that we weren't quite sure how we do it and howlong it would take. So, after a number of conversations, doinga campaign was seen as the quickest and most effective way to make a make a... differencemake an impact, relatively early. And we... we went through the whole sort ofcycle of, how do... do you start with mental health? Do you still call it mental health? and allthe leading charities again, the experts helped us try and be more coherent in what our campaignwas going to be. And it was a unanimous voice really, thattackling the taboo, tackling the stigma, could be the biggest thing that we could do thatwould help them with their work and allow their... their particular individual charitiesto rise out of... out of the stigma. And I think we were surprised by how quicklythat went. But... but also having that focus of the marathon,we can't thank the marathon enough for being... accepting, you know, the mental health marathonlast year. It was fantastic. It gave us a focus point. It gave us something to drive the campaigntowards. And then to see all the runners and theirheadbands was quite something, even if we had to wear them ourselves. But it was... it was worth it to see that...that relief. And actually there... you know, during themental health campaign, and I know Rianne, I know she's here somewhere, she's going tohate the fact that I pointed her out. But people like Rianne who spoke on the mentalhealth marathon, she ran the marathon for mental health, along with many other amazingpeople who had had very, very sad times happen to them, or very, very difficult testing times. I was completely and utterly blown away. And actually, it makes me incredibly proudwhen someone like Rianne comes along and shares her story, shares what happened to her andreally gave us the motivation and the impact ourselves to see that this was really importantwork, and that we have to keep promoting that, we have to keep pushing us. But we couldn't have done it without peoplelike Rianne and all those in the mental health campaign and the marathon itself. Interviewer: Meghan, what did you make ofit watching from afar? Meghan: Oh, my... I mean, I think probably the same sentimentthat most people had. Obviously, happening here, the stigmatizationsurrounding mental health is different and unique in every territory. But I was in Canada at the time and I justremember how much news coverage was getting. And just in that alone, it was getting sucha conversation point happening amongst people. And I think, again, to the point that they'veall touched on earlier, it was because of that togetherness, because you had so manydifferent organizations under this umbrella, and each of them is shining the spotlighton it. So, I think in North America, at least fromthat standpoint, I remember being... it being a very large point of conversation. And I would imagine in other countries aswell, it made such a huge impact. It was very impressive to watch from afar. Interviewer: And I have to ask you, all thework you do together is great, but working together as family, do you ever have disagreementsabout things? William: Oh, yes. Harry: Healthy disagreements. Interviewer: Okay. The last thing you disagreed on, how did youresolve it? Harry: I can’t remember, they come so… Is it resolved? William: We don’t know. Interviewer: You don’t know. Well, you're putting on a great show if it’snot. Harry: No, but it's really... I think it's really good that we've got, youknow, 4... 4 different personalities. And, you know, we've all got that same...the same passion to want to make a difference, but, you know, different... different opinions. And I think those opinions worked really,really well. Working as family does have its challenges. Of course, there's everybody here. The fact that everyone’s laughing meansthat everybody knows exactly what it’s like. But, you know, we're, we're still togetherfor the rest of our lives. Interviewer: Is this true? Meghan: Togetherness it its finest. Interviewer: Togetherness, yeah, yeah. Catherine: Actually, going to your point aswell, actually, initially, remember the sort of big roundtables with the charity partners,you know, it is sometimes hard to find these common... these common grounds where everyonereally can get behind and... and things like that. And actually, that... that is the challenge,you know, everyone is... are individuals that are all working towards our own ambitions. But if you can, for us as... as patrons, butalso the charity partners, I think you did a fantastic speech recently about everyonecollaborating and working together. And in doing so, you can make such, you know,much bigger impact. Interviewer: 4 heads are better than 1. Meghan: Well, and thank goodness it’s suchdiffering personalities and that everyone's very communicative, because that's how youcan really see bigger change. If everyone's thinking the same way, how areyou going to push the envelope? You know, how are you really going to breakthrough in a different sort of mindset? Changing mindsets and all of that is partof this communication that we have constantly. So, I think it's... it's part of the reasonwe've had so much success with Heads Together and whatever we end up working on moving forward. Interviewer: Yeah. And you encourage that diversity of thinkingbetween themselves. That's great. And thank you very much. We look forward to hearing much more throughoutthe morning. Thank you.


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